Thrillcraft:The Environmental Consequences of Motorized Recr

Thrillcraft:The Environmental Consequences of Motorized Recr

Postby BILLYjp2 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:13 pm

When it comes to armeggedon, i'll drive my jeep cherokee right outta that mess
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Postby xbaadleej » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:39 pm

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Postby BIIprospector » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:44 pm

I fucking hate do-gooders
I never said it would be pretty...
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Re: Thrillcraft:The Environmental Consequences of Motorized Recr

Postby navman » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:51 am

Must have been written by one of those morons that built a house in the middle of an orv trail, now their pissed off. Just like the people that bought a house next to new england dragway that complain about noise DUH!!!

figures my first post is against tree huggers, sorry outdoor recreationally challenged.
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Postby XJMA » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:19 pm

Bunch of BS.
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Postby toxicturtle » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:27 pm

Those people are serious as a crutch tho! We can laugh and point fingers at how stupid it sounds to us.. BUT.. they are gaining numbers in the war against US.
Just something to be aware of the next time there is a call to action in terms of needing letters written or people at a meeting, etc. If we don't act, they will for us and we'll lose.. not only public lands/roads (like Chester being graded recently) but our ability to use private land.

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Postby XJMA » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:48 pm

If I had the time I could write a book about how the environmental impacts of OHVs are negligable at best. It's funny people think it's alright to knock down tons of trees, totally regrade large areas and pave them with rock and oil (aka asphalt), but it's not ok for some jeeps to squeeze though the forest between some trees. In that regard, if you compared roads to wheeling trails, the roads would be like the exxon valdez and wheeling trails would be like the fumes that escape into the atmosphere when you fill up your tank.....
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Postby navman » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:29 pm

Just to give you an idea of what toxicturtle is talking about, years ago environmentalists in yellowstone park complained that the snowmobiles were causing damage to the trails. What they were actually complaining about was the studs/picks on the tracks were leaving marks in the paved path through the park. Since when is an asphalt trail part of nature. But what was the end result ? Stud ban on all snowmobiles in yellowstone. Almost as rediculous as the mcdonalds hot coffey lawsuit, if the judge had any balls he would have told the person not to be stupid its hot coffee and thrown the case out.
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Postby XJMA » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:17 pm

Why is there pavement in yellowstone national park!?!!!! That's Fn outrageous!!

I wonder how many snowmobilers have fallen off icy cliffs to their death because they didn't have studded tracks?
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Re: Thrillcraft:The Environmental Consequences of Motorized Recr

Postby toxicturtle » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:44 pm

There is pretty much a complete ban on snowmobiles in Yellowstone now. Only 350 allowed in per day. Thats down from the low thousands allowed just a few years ago, and thats only because a judge reversed a lawsuit that the greenies won that DID ban ALL snowmobiles. Greenie whackos complained about noise, pollution, scaring the wildlife, etc. Now, if you don't get in on that 350, you have to take big snowbusses into the park, where they drive you around to see the pretty tourist stuff.. no getting to the outer reaches of the park. :evil:
Don't get me started, I could fill your bandwidth with land use issues till you'd all puke.. :grin:

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