Project Chemotherapy

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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:35 am

Yep. I'm going to wrap some 1/4" plate from the bumper mounting area around the front and weld it in with some rosettes. (like Colin did, but more hole saws and less plugs)

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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:00 pm

Who knows what about rear axles? I'm doing my research but not coming up with a ton. I'm looking for something about 67" WMS to WMS, 5x5.5, fairly strong without having built internals, and decent aftermarket support. I've read that E250 d60's from late models are 5 lug but have no confirmed data either way. Nick? Billy?

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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby xbaadleej » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:14 pm

ford 9" from and early bronco. just sold one not too long ago
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:26 pm

Thanks Chris. I'll look into it.

My other option is to get an E350 rear axle like Colin got and convert my current front axle (D44) to 8x6.5. This would work especially well because I forsee myself wanting a 60 front in the distant future...
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby BILLYjp2 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:43 pm

xbaadleej wrote:ford 9" from and early bronco. just sold one not too long ago


way too narrow. full width 9s have 31 spline shafts and some have nodular cases. Sam's rear 60 is out of an old international and thats 5 lug
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:47 pm

BILLYjp2 wrote:
xbaadleej wrote:ford 9" from and early bronco. just sold one not too long ago


way too narrow. full width 9s have 31 spline shafts and some have nodular cases. Sam's rear 60 is out of an old international and thats 5 lug

Unfortunately his rear 60 is only 62" WMS to WMS.

Billy- What was involved in the 8 lug conversion? I have Reid racing knuckles with high steer arms that I'd like to keep...
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby BILLYjp2 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:52 pm

i didnt do any conversion, i just bought a 3/4 ton 44 out of a 79 F-250. you couldn't use the reid racing knuckles, but if you sold it you could pay for all the stock 8 lug stuff.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby Bump » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:55 pm

I can measure my 9" at home for you.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:02 pm

BILLYjp2 wrote:i didnt do any conversion, i just bought a 3/4 ton 44 out of a 79 F-250. you couldn't use the reid racing knuckles, but if you sold it you could pay for all the stock 8 lug stuff.

Cool. Thanks for the info. Mike Belben has 8 lug chevy 44 stuff for sale. Will that work?

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Bump wrote:I can measure my 9" at home for you.

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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby BILLYjp2 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:07 pm

i have no knowledge of that chevy crap, but i don't believe they are factory flat tops like my fords are
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:12 pm

Haha crap... Ok. I know Travis had a hell of a time sourcing flat top ford knuckles when he was building the axle in the first place.

If I swapped the entire outer setup, including the knuclke, they might work...?

Billy, how much did you pay for that axle and why won't the hubs, rotors, and brakes work with my knuckles?
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby BILLYjp2 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:01 pm

i paid $100 for the axle. You might be able to bolt the stock 8 lug stuff to the reid racing knuckles, but i really have no idea. The entire stock ford 3/4 ton outters including the knuckles would be a direct bolt up to your axle.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:11 pm

Awesome. My knuckles will work, then. Looks like a trip to Napa will be in order eventually.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:31 pm

So I sold my D44's. Getting a D60 front, and some sort of big rear axle, haven't decided what just yet.

Other news:
Flame cut plates (cleanly) because grinders are slow, 5 hole saws per side and 3 steering box bolts. I don't know if I'll be runing assist or full hydro, so I wanted to keep my options open. It only took an extra 10 mins. 10 mins now is better than hours some other time. I cheated with the steering box bolt locations... I clamped the undrilled plate onto the unibody and put a 9/16 drill bit in from the engine bay side and spun it till it marked the plate. To bend the plate over, I welded the back of the plate on then heated the bejeezus out of the bend area, bent it with a 15" adjustable while continuing to torch. When it was too bent to use the wrench but not quite done I hit near the bend with a 3 lb sledge (while heating). (Think: blacksmith)

Here's the driver's side (crappy cell phone pic for now). Still need to bend the passenger side but it got too late to be hammering that loudly. Will take better pictures when the task is done
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I'm happy with all of my welds except one or two. Not bad for it being late at night, though. The more I do this the more I'm learning to be constantly adjusting my settings for each individual weld.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:08 pm

Finished both sides. Jenn (my ladyfriend) helped me bend the passenger side plate. Took 2 minutes with someone else holding the torch rather than the 15 mins it took me to do it alone.

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I guess I missed a few spots with the paint...
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My overhead welds aren't beautiful, but they're certainly not as bad as they could be.

Food for thought: I opted not to drill holes in the passenger side plate because it has no crush sleeves...
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby masswrecker » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:20 pm

looks good i bought the early bronco 9 from bradly just trying to find a centersection now the one i got is questionable may keep it is a spare... its 5x5.5 and 61 wm to wm if i remember correctly
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:32 pm

Thanks. Good to know about the 9". I suppose it doesn't really effect what I do though. I sold my dana 44's and I'm getting a chevy/dodge D60 fr and some sort of big rear axle. Not sure what yet.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:15 pm

I just spent forever staring at my engine (on the stand) and moving the M90 around.

I decided a few things:

-I'm missing the output flange & tube
-I refuse to cut the hood
-I'm going to use its factory intake tube with a short ram intake poking out the fenderwell. Reasons this is good: Water is dumb and I don't play in it, it will effectively be a CAI, the factory tube has 4 bungs in it (meaning I have to make one less pipe). 2 of the bungs will be sealed off, one will be a boost gauge, the other will be a BOV or DV
-The rear outside most bolt hole for mounting the AC compressor will be the front center bolt hole of the M90
-I will probably need to relocate the battery, coolant overflow tank, and shimmy the fuse box.
-I hope it leaves room for my front air shocks/coil overs

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I think the next step is to drop this configuration into the engine bay and see what it gives me for space.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby THE FREAK » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:56 am

WOW big vary big y not just put a th401h turbo on its the size of that things pully and will pull more power both work around the same range 1500 rpm putting the m90 now you have to put a stand alone in due to map/mass val. will not be there and your computer controls the p.s.i (1 fuel line) so you cant put a inline pump in and what about the compression i think it maybe to high for the S.C just a shit load of work when there is such a ez way around it turbo/w220 fuel pump check valve for the map oil line done extra 110 hp
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby BILLYjp2 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 am

did anyone else understand one word of that?
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby kastein » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:30 am

I did but I had to read it a couple times and figure out where the punctuation went.

I'm kinda confused as to why you can't make the engine computer happy simply by using higher flow injectors and maybe toning down the signal from the MAP sensor so it thinks your normal boost range is normal atmospheric pressure. More air, more fuel, engine computer thinks everything is normal and uses the O2 sensor to figure out what to do next. Why does everyone think it takes more than that? Maybe I'm a retard and haven't read up enough on forced injection, but it doesn't seem too hard.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby asp87 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:39 pm

I had to read it a couple times too haha.

The big reason is that I don't want to fabricate turbo-compatible exhaust manifold and the only way to do a compact turbo install on a XJ is to do just that. Someday, maybe. Now, no.

It's not enough to cheat and multiply everything by the same factor. To do it right means to have everything reading actual values. I see what you mean, but I don't think it will work. I think I can get the electronics and stuff for sub $300 (not including injectors).
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby THE FREAK » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:22 pm

ya 300 sounds about right the walburo 220 fuel pump would be the best bet to up volume and bolts right in and only around 100 bucks
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby kastein » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:08 pm

yeah, I'm going to have to do a good amount of research if I'm gonna be able to help you with any of it... reading bryson's thread over on NAXJA (as you clearly have done) is probably a better source of info. I figured it wasn't enough to just fool it, since no one does that, but I wish I knew why.
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Re: Project Chemotherapy

Postby THE FREAK » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:46 pm

kastein how would some one (tone down the signal from the MAP sensor) and as far as the o2s they read at .3 to .5 all the way to 5.5volt i would think you would need a y band o2 .2 to 8 volts and maybe pull the o2 a lil out of the exhaust pipe do to the heat
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